Event Recap: Dr. Sarah Rhodes, Health Science Policy Analyst

by Chris Yarosh

PSPG tries to hold as many events as limited time and funding permit, but we cannot bring in enough speakers to cover the range of science policy careers out there. Luckily, other groups at Penn hold fantastic events, too, and this week’s Biomedical Postdoc Program Career Workshop was no exception. While all of the speakers provided great insights into their fields, this recap focuses on Dr. Sarah Rhodes, a Health Science Policy Analyst in the Office of Science Policy (OSP) at the National Institutes of Health (NIH).

First, some background: Sarah earned her Ph.D. in Neuroscience from Cardiff University in the U.K., and served as a postdoc there before moving across the pond and joining a lab at the NIH. To test the policy waters, Sarah took advantage of NIH’s intramural detail program, which allows scientists to do temporary stints in administrative offices. For her detail, Sarah worked as a Policy Analyst in the Office of Autism Research Coordination (OARC) at the National Institute of Mental Health (NIMH). That experience convinced her to pursue policy full time. Following some immigration-related delays, Sarah joined OARC as a contractor and later became a permanent NIH employee.

After outlining her career path, Sarah provided an overview of how science policy works in the U.S. federal government, breaking the field broadly into three categories: policy for science, science for policy, and science diplomacy. According to Sarah (and as originally promulgated by Dr. Diane Hannemann, another one of this event’s panelists), the focus of different agencies roughly breaks down as follows:


This makes a lot of sense. Funding agencies like NIH and NSF are mostly concerned with how science is done, Congress is concerned with general policymaking, and the regulatory agencies both conduct research and regulate activities under their purview. Even so, Sarah did note that all these agencies do a bit of each type of policy (e.g. science diplomacy at NIH Fogarty International Center). In addition, different components of each agency have different roles. For example, individual Institutes focus more on analyzing policy for their core mission (aging at NIA, cancer at NCI, etc.), while the OSP makes policies that influence all corners of the NIH.

Sarah then described her personal duties at OSP’s Office of Scientific Management and Reporting (OSMR):
  • Coordinating NIH’s response to a directive from the President’s Office of Science and Technology Policy related to scientific collections (think preserved specimens and the like)
  • Managing the placement of AAAS S&T Fellows at NIH
  • Supporting the Scientific Management Review Board, which advises the NIH Director
  • Preparing for NIH’s appropriations hearings and responding to Congressional follow-ups
  • “Whatever fires needs to be put out”
If this sounds like the kind of job for you, Sarah recommends building a professional network and developing your communication skills ASAP (perhaps by blogging!?). This sentiment was shared by all of the panelists, and it echoes advice from our previous speakers. Sarah also strongly recommends volunteering for university or professional society committees. These bodies work as deliberative teams and are therefore good preparation for the style of government work.

For more information, check out the OSP’s website and blog. If you’re interested in any of the other speakers from this panel, I refer you to the Biomedical Postdoc Program.

Event Recap: Dr. Sarah Martin, ASBMB Science Policy Fellow

by Ian McLaughlin

On February 11th, Dr. Sarah Martin, a Science Policy Fellow at the American Society for Biochemistry and Molecular Biology (ASBMB), visited Penn to chat about her experience working in science policy. As it turns out, her story is perhaps more circuitous than one might expect.

An avid equestrian, Sarah earned a bachelor’s degree in animal sciences and a master’s degree in animal nutrition at the University of Kentucky before embarking on a Ph.D. in Molecular and Cellular Biochemistry at UK’s College of Medicine. While pursuing her degrees, Sarah realized that the tenure track was not for her, and she began exploring career options using the Individual Development Plan (IDP) provided by AAAS Careers. At the top of the list: science policy.

With an exciting career option in mind, Sarah sought ways to build “translatable skills” during her Ph.D. to help her move toward science policy. She served as treasurer, and later Vice President, of UK’s Graduate Student Congress and developed her communication skills by starting her own blog and participating in ThreeMinute Thesis.  Sarah stressed the importance of communicating with non-scientists, and she highlighted how her practice paid off during Kentucky’s first-ever State Capitol Hill Day, an event that showcases Kentucky-focused scientific research to that state’s legislators.

Sarah also shared  how she got up to speed on science policy issues, becoming a “student of policy” by voraciously reading The Hill, RollCall, Politico, ScienceInsider, and ASBMB’s own PolicyBlotter. Additionally, she started to engage with peers, non-scientists, and legislators on Twitter, noting how it’s a useful tool to sample common opinions on issues related to science.  Finally, she reached out to former ASBMB fellows for advice on how to pursue a career in science policy – and they were happy to help.

Sarah then described the typical responsibilities of an ASBMB fellow, breaking them down into four categories:
  1. Research- tracking new legislation, and a daily diet of articles regarding new developments in science and policy
  2. Meetings- with legislators on Capitol Hill, staff at the NIH, partner organizations such as the Federation of American Societies for Experimental Biology (FASEB), and others
  3. Writing- white papers, position statements, and blog posts on everything from ASBMB’s position on gene editing to the NIH Strategic Plan for FY 2016-2020
  4. Administration- organizing and preparing for meetings, composing executive summaries, and helping to plan and organize ASBMB’s Hill Day.

Sarah also talked about her own independent project at ASBMB, a core component of each Fellowship experience. Sarah aims to update ASBMB’s Advocacy Toolkit in order to consolidate all of the resources a scientist might need to engage in successful science advocacy.

Comparing the ASBMB fellowship to similar fellowships, she noted as an advantage that there is no specific end to the fellowship, which gives Fellows plenty of time to find permanent positions that match their interests.  Sarah also noted that, compared to graduate students and postdocs, she enjoys an excellent work/life balance.

Ultimately, Sarah made it clear that she loves what she does. She closed by providing the following resources from ASBMB Science Policy Analyst Chris Pickett for anyone interested in applying for the ASBMB fellowship or pursuing a career in science policy:

At the interface of science and society - a career fostering public interest in science at The Franklin Institute.

Credit: The Franklin Institute
Everybody loves science museums. Their fun and interactive way of presenting science reconnects you with your childhood self, when you were curious, when you wondered, and when you were so amazed that you could only manage to say, “Wow!” But what is it like to work at a science museum?

On Wednesday, we hosted Jayatri Das, PhD, to describe her career engaging the public with science as the Chief Bioscientist at The Franklin Institute. As you would expect, her transition from the lab into the museum was cultivated by a strong interest in outreach and teaching. After receiving her PhD from Princeton, she gained experience as a Christine Mirzayan Science and Technology Policy Fellow developing programs for the Marian Koshland Science Museum in Washington, DC. Following a short post-doctoral appointment, she landed a position with The Franklin Institute, an opportunity that she partly ascribes to fortuitous timing, as PhD level positions at museums are rare.

In her job she embraces a new paradigm for how science should interact with society. The goal is no longer public understanding of science. Rather, she urges we should strive for public engagement with science. “We want to communicate to our visitors that they are part of the conversation on how we use science and technology,” she says.

Science and technology do not exist in a void. Jayatri describes that:

1) Values shape technology
2) Technology affects social relationships
3) Technologies work because they are part of systems.

As an example, consider nanotechnology. This field has opened new possibilities to create quantum computing, high-tech military clothing, flexible inexpensive solar panels, clean energy, simple water filters, and new cancer treatments; even invisibility cloaks and elevators into space have been envisioned. But which of these technologies are developed will depend on the values of those funding the research and the circumstances driving market demand for them. Priorities would be different for a wealthy businesswoman in Japan, a US-trained Iraqi solider, a European who lost a spouse to cancer, and a cotton farmer in India.

As she points out, “Investments [in R&D] are being made by people with values different than most of the world’s population.” Therefore, it is important to challenge people to think globally.

Why are science museums a great place for these conversations? First, they provide trusted and stimulating information. Second, they are a place where people can reflect on science, technology, and the world. And third, they are a place for conversation because many visitors attend in groups.

Part of her job involves designing the many ways that The Franklin Institute engages the public with science, which in addition to interactive exhibits includes public programs, digital media, and partnerships with schools and communities. For instance, she recently led a public discussion about concussions in sports. The all-ages audience was presented with the neuroscience of head trauma and testimony from former Eagles’ linebacker Jeremiah Trotter, and then they discussed what age kids should be allowed to play tackle football.

Because science and technology are so integrated into our lives now, conversations like these are crucial. In order for breakthroughs to be beneficial for society, they have to interact with public attitudes and values. This communication between science and society occurs naturally at science museums, so they offer fulfilling positions for people like Jayatri who are motivated to connect the frontiers of science with casual visitors. 


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